DejaVu26
2011-7-12 04:21 PM
本帖最后由 DejaVu26 于 2011-7-12 04:30 PM 编辑
回复 350# duenna
想多了
天啊，我当然没有一杆打翻的意思，只是说本地很多家长急着教孩子英语，却不清楚自己的能力，结果把很多错误教给孩子，破坏了孩子的英语基础。很多本地的所谓“香蕉人”何尝不是那样。
TOEFL我也考过啊，忘了分数，从来不注重这些东西。分数重要呢，还是事实重要？某个人英语测验得到A+，但一口就什么 She is goes to school... He was went to school. you is... I is...(不夸张，见过考试得到A的连简单语法都不懂。)那你应该相信他的考试分数，还是从他的言谈字句来判断他呢？
唉，我不是凭空捏造，我是根据你的语法来做出判断的。如果我真的判断错误，请见谅。
如果那样会让你自己平衡一点，我想，你应该那么做。但请了解，事实无论如何还是事实。
什么类型的学校都一样，有好有坏。制度固然重要，老师也很重要。打个比方，如果老师自己的英语也不到家，就算是多尽责的老师也无法把学生教好，我们这里很多时候就是这样，在没有合格的老师的情况下，只好找来一些本身英语也不到家的老师来教，结果学生没打好基础，试问如何能把英语学好？
我没针对和排斥在家教育，我只是在说英语的问题。
我不是叫你去查字典，是叫你去搜寻“he has a British slang"，（记得开关引号）看看有没有人这么说，然后再搜寻”he has a British accent" 做个比较。
还是我帮你搜寻吧：
"he has a British slang" : No results found for "he has a british slang".
"he has a British accent" : About 196,000 results (0.27 seconds)
Do you see the difference?
口音包括发音，但口音和发音不是同义词；动物包括老虎，但动物不是老虎。
.为什么要从那个人是否英国回来，还是妈妈是否美国人来判断那个人的英语程度，而不是直接从他的语法、用词、发音等来判断？为什么要从一个人是否什么人的孩子，是否来自什么环境来判断那个人的品性，而不是直接从他的言谈、行为和举止等来判断？
我们谁都没冒犯谁。如果真的有错，只是我太坦白，太直接，但我也只是以事论事，完全不涉及个人的情绪和偏见。
的确是很好奇，我想知道一个”在家教育”的孩子所掌握的英语是怎么样的。为什么你会对自己的英语程度有如此高的评价和自信...... 显然的，你也懂中文，如果能看到你写的中文更好。至于我对你的文章，或者说你的英语的看法，我想你不会很想听，只能说你的基本的一些基础打的不是很好，这些错误或许经过长时间的适应，已经被你正常化了，以致你自己也看不到那些错误；可惜，就这样卡在那个瓶颈...... 否则，你的英语应该可以更好的。
不过谢谢你，我又从中了解和学习到很多东西。
记得，你没冒犯我，我也没冒犯你。《可爱的笑脸》
回复 350# duenna
Just in a way I feel that you are bugged by only me, lol.
Home school, international school and also " self-study " the one that you said parents " 家教育教坏了 "
I literally self-studied for my TOEFL and I took 106/120,
you can ask around what kind of score is it.
I am not cocky about it,
but you judgment over " 相信这种程度是不足以参加TOEFL等考试的 " is clearly wrong over it.
If I have to choose over you saying my language " 程度是不足以参加TOEFL等考试的 ",
and the fact that I've always had good score for my language,
I'd choose to trust fact than your opinion.
Your point of view over kids in home school/international school are " 家教育教坏了 " is not what I see.
When I was in home school, I see kids more discipline.
They've goals for everyday's work,
grade 1 - 12 whoever it is, your passing score is 80.
After you've done your work, you need to score them with answer key yourselves,
which give you temptation of changing your answer,
but tutors chose to trust you.
The part you ask me to go google, and I did.
还是我帮你搜寻吧：
"he has a British slang" : No results found for "he has a british slang".
"he has a British accent" : About 196,000 results (0.27 seconds)
Do you see the difference?
By your opinion, accent might not be pronunciation,
you can use many different words to explain it,
or altogether a long essay to easy the meaning of it,
but when it comes to definition, it is short and clear, one line.
Maybe he came back from UK? Maybe her mom is an American?
There are possibilities to explain his/her way of speaking,
and that is why I chose not to judge
I didn't mean to offend you.
And if you are curious about my writing,
here's a link to it :
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=438569957906
不过谢谢你，我又从中了解和学习到很多东西。
记得，你没冒犯我，我也没冒犯你。《可爱的笑脸》
